Excerpt from interview conducted at Debriefing Center Xenon, 9/12/12
Subject: Nathan Cox, age 27
Interviewer: So what do you think you did to attract their attention?
Subject: Attract her attention, you mean?
Interviewer: However you want to answer the question, Nathan.
Subject: Don’t call me by my first name like you know me. I don’t like that.
Interviewer: You don’t want me to bring the other guy back in here, do you?
Interviewer: What’s that, Nathan?
Subject: No, no I don’t.
Interviewer: So tell me how your story starts.
Subject: I’m just a normal guy. I work a job, I go to night school, I got this girl I’m kinda seeing.
Interviewer: So why do they approach you, then?
Subject: Well on the side I got this hobby.
Subject: I like to bust up statues. Not like real statues, like valuable art statues. But in the neighborhood l live in, there’s a lot of Italians and Portuguese, right?
Interviewer: You’re part Italian, correct?
Subject: Yeah, on my ma’s side. So they like garden statuary. Plaster stuff. Poured concrete. Sometimes it’s Virgin Marys and saints and whatnot. Sometimes it’s more classical statues.
Interviewer: Like in this photo, here, for example. Of Atlas carrying the world. Except somebody’s smacked off his arms. With what, a hammer?
Interviewer: You did this, Nathan?
Subject: Yeah, yeah, probably. I was drunk a lot of the time. But if a statue got broken in my neighborhood, it was probably me that did it.
Interviewer: And did you vandalize them in any particular way that might have attracted their interest?
Subject: Well there’s the practical to consider. There’s only certain bits of a statue you can break. But within that, I always tried to do the most to ruin what the statue meant. Does that make any sense?
Interviewer: So Atlas isn’t Atlas anymore if he has no arms to carry the Earth.
Subject: Yeah, like that.
Interviewer: Do you know what semiotics is, Nathan?
Interviewer: Did Odessa ever use that word with you?
Subject: Uh, maybe. But I keep telling you, her name isn’t Odessa. It’s Katherine. Katherine James.
Interviewer: Did she explain what it was about your vandalism that led her to track you down?
Subject: She said I wasn’t just a vandal, I was an artist. Making statements. Destroying meaning. Changing the vibration of my neighborhood.
Interviewer: And you took that seriously.
Subject: The way Katherine talks, you take everything she says seriously. It all makes sense, when she says it.
Interviewer: Including kidnapping?
Subject: Well that was months later. I was in deep by then. She made me think we were changing the world.
Interviewer: Changing it how?
Subject: Taking all the powerful people who didn’t deserve to be lording over the rest of us ordinary people and casting them down. Giving ordinary people like me a chance to rule.
Interviewer: Were you sleeping with her?
Subject: I wish.
Interviewer: But she implied that maybe you might get to, eventually.
Subject: Not in so many words.
Interviewer: Would it be fair to say she led you to infer it?
Interviewer: Was that on your mind when you smothered the victim for her?
Subject: I need a break. Can we stop talking about this?
Interviewer: Sure, Nathan. Do you want anything?
Subject: I wish I hadn’t done it. I want to die. If you bring the other guy back in, will he kill me?
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